Collector cars are often daily drivers for years that were driven into the ground – literally. They were often parked for a reason (i.e. the transmission, engine, or something major went out and the owner never got around to fixing it) in a garage or barn, and then never restored to their former glory. They are sometimes cars that somebody bought to fix up and enjoy, but never was. Collector cars were once the pride and joy of somebody else, so when you go to buy the car, don’t make jokes about the car or tell stupid stories about a similar car that you once owned. It’s just a bad idea. Here’s a quick list of what to look for, should you decide to buy one.
- Small Animals: Small animals, remnants of them, or their excrement are not uncommon in collector cars. Most of the time, the cars were parked in a barn or a garage and not touched for many years. In barns, rats, mice, and the like often make nests in the engine bay, trunk, or interior. This is a big, smelly pain to get rid of. However, don’t be afraid to tackle getting rid of the poop. All you need is protective eye and mouth wear, a good shop vacuum, and a good few hours or so. These small critters will often have gnawed their way through the firewall, into the interior, eaten up the seat cushions, and made nests in their. Don’t worry. Most of these collector cars are going to need a new interior anyways. I’ll talk about interiors later.
- Rust: Lots of classic cars rust. It’s a sad fact, but it’s the unavoidable truth. Even concours-worthy cars have had rust at some point in their life. Really, don’t be daunted by rust. There are so many NOS (not original stock), OEM (original equipment manufacturer), and reproduction parts around that you don’t need to look far for new body panels, floorboards, etc. I’ll do another post on where to find reproduction body panels and parts soon – there are too many to list in a relatively short post like this!
- Seized Engines: Most collector cars that were daily drivers were often parked for a reason. It could be that the engine went boom, the transmission went bang, or something else major. With a seized engine, don’t worry. If something, say a piston, went through the valve cover due to a blown crankshaft or connecting rod, you might want to look into getting a modern crate engine. If the engine had something smaller, like a bad timing chain, any gearhead who has a good repair manual, a couple of friends, some beer, a full tool set, and a replacement part can do that fix in a couple of days. Do something fun like invite your buddies over for a bratwurst party, or something else fun, and then go out to the garage/workshop/man cave and fix the car. You’ve probably read a story or three about how a guy invited a couple of friends over to his house to replace a transmission and ended up restoring the car in his garage with his buddies. Be one of those people. It gives you creds in the car world, and it’s fun to hang out and work on something that was built to be enjoyed.
- Failed Transmissions: Sometimes transmissions fail. It’s an albeit expensive part of life, but it happens. Most of the time, it’s better to get a new transmission in a classic car unless it was a custom-built transmission for an old race car or something like that. Gearstar transmissions (gearstar.net) offers overdrive-equipped transmissions that come in a crate ready to be bolted in. If you want to add an overdrive to a stock transmission, check out Gear Vendors Overdrives (gearvendors.com). These transmissions and transmission parts will last you a long time, increase the reliability and efficiency of your pride and joy, and make it more fun to drive.
- Body Damage: Don’t worry about body damage. You can easily find a new replacement body part online (again, I will do a blog post on where to find new body parts) or at a swap meet. If it’s something simple like a ding, it might be worth it to take it to a body shop and let them fix it for a couple of days. Or, you can find out how to do it online. The internet is a great place to go for advice. Just don’t rely on it for everything.
- Brakes: Braking systems wear out over time. It’s scary and bad when brakes go bad. Don’t fret. Classic cars often come with drum brakes, which don’t really stop a car that well. Most classic cars have manual brakes. If you want more comfort and driveability in your car, consider going with power brakes. Master cylinders should be rebuilt, replaced, or fixed if needed. If a car has been sitting for a long time, think about cleaning out the master cylinder and testing it before you drive the car. It is worth it to buy a brake bleeder kit. Should you decide to go for bigger, better brakes in a restomod or pro-touring car, or just want better performance, Wilwood Brakes (wilwood.com) is one of the best in the business.
- Suspension: Lots of old cars aren’t exactly known for their handling. If you have an old muscle car and live in an area where there are a lot of curves, think about getting Koni adjustable shocks (koni-na.com) or Hotchkis Suspension (hotchkis.net). These suspension systems will greatly improve your car’s performance and driveability, and will make it even more enjoyable for you to drive. With the Koni shocks, you can adjust the shocks to your liking with a screwdriver!
- Exhaust: The exhaust system in a car can fail quite easily. It can get holes in it, the muffler could have gotten dented beyond repair, and the exhaust pipes could have a leak. Exhaust leaks can be deadly. Exhaust from cars contains large amounts of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and many other bad gasses. Don’t ever hesitate to replace them! If you have something that needs to be smogged, consider going for a Flowmaster Muffler (flowmastermufflers.com). It gives a great sound while helping keep your baby on the road. If you do need to smog it, always tune up the engine before taking it in. It will be much less of a headache. If you don’t know what Flowmasters sound like, look them up on YouTube. They sound far better than stock while looking stock.
- Wheels: Wheels take a lot of abuse. Most of you have probably accidentally scraped the curb with them or gotten them scratched somehow. Don’t worry – I have too! There are so many aftermarket wheel manufacturers that they are a 3-piece blog post – at least! Go for a reputable name! Cragar Wheels (cragarwheel.com) is a leading manufacturer in wheels. They are well-known, look great on old muscle cars, and you can find really cool old ones for sale too!
- Tires: Think about it. The only thing keeping your car attached to the road is about four square inches at four corners of the car. That’s not a lot. Get good tires. Don’t get bias-ply tires unless your car is a trailer queen that is only driven to it’s place at the lawn on Pebble Beach. Coker Tires (cokertire.com) offers vintage-looking radial tires for not too much money, and last a long time. If your car is built for the drag strip, Firestone makes vintage-looking “cheater slicks,” as well as Mickey Thompson and Goodyear. All of these tires are good drag slicks, and most are street-legal! Get good tires that won’t go bald quickly!
I think that’s enough for you to digest right now, so I’ll leave the rest for another time.
6 thoughts on “What to Look for in Collector Cars Part 1”
Thank you. We now have a nice term for Ron’s old Lexus (owned byhis grandfather) that has been sitting idle in hiw work parking lot for two years! It’s not a piece of junk, its a “collector car”.
Well, that’s good to know.
wow…you make one hell of an argument for buying a new car.
That wasn’t exactly my plan, but I can see your point.
Last I checked, we have two sitting out front waiting to be restored to their former glory….
Last I checked, we have two out front and one out back…plus two tractors